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Sunday, 30 October 2011
Church Street 1940's?
On the left of this photo is an ornate building which Michael thinks he identifies as the Unitarian Baptist Chapel.
Can anyone help confirm the identity of the building?
its looking much more like a pub than a church. I wonder what the road is that meets Church Street here, that could be a clue. Also which side of the road? Is that an entrance into Crossfield Street on the left of the picture? Also what are the tall buildings in the foggy background? They suggest that the buildings in the picture are on the Creek side of Church Street and the two towers may be large Creek side warehouses or mills?
I agree, Shipwright's Palace, having now seen the building from the front, it does have the distinct look of a pub. The buildings are on the West side of Church Street, and the street from which the picture is taken is Pender Street. Church Street runs roughly South-North, and so the camera view is roughly South-West. The buildings in the background are probably those in the High Street. Here are the entries from the 1914 Post Office Directory (starting from the Kings Head on the West corner of Church Street and Creek Road, and finishing at Crossfield Street): 199 King's Head, Richard Webster (here is Albury Street) 197 & 195 Osment, Henry James, Pawnbroker 193 Alfred Watson & Co., tobacconist 189 William Franks & Sons, bakers 187 Edwin Gilson, marine stores 185 Mrs Matilda Teuten, confectioner (here is alley to Mary Ann's Buildings) 181 William Wright, boot & shoe maker 179 John Carr, watchmaker UNITARIAN BAPTIST CHAPEL 165 Charles Stacey, beer retailer 159 James Smith, marine store 157 Henry Child, tobacconist 145 Robert Peters, greengrocer 143 Richard Stubbs, baker (here is Crossfield Street)
Having looked again at the map of 1914, the Unitarian Baptist Chapel is further down Church Street, opposite Berthon Street. It was a detached building, laying back from the street, and had St Paul's behind it. The recreation ground mentioned earlier was between St Paul's and the chapel. Looks like the building in question was a pub, then, but neither the 1914 map nor the directory shows it.
You can see this building in the post of Friday, 3 June 2011, Headed Albury Street??? I remember as a kid walking past the newsagents 'Maynards' as I knew it and then about 100yds further going through the gate into St Paul's then into the wreck that use to be there, but cant for the life of me remember a Pub there. It is on the west side of Church Street.
Just above the doorway where the two men are standing, there appear to be the words `Shoe Repairs'. This could, then, be No. 181 Church Street, where William Wright, boot & shoe maker had his shop. Judging from the roughly painted sign, I think he just used part of the building.
Thanks for your help on this matter. I can now confirm the address numbers shown in the photo are 171-179 Deptford Church Street. I do not know if the ornate building is included. The photo was taken in 1946/7. Was the Chapel still there then?
Andy, I've looked in the London Metropolitan Archives for non-conformist churches, hoping the registers of births, marriages and deaths would give some indication of the time-span of the Unitarian Baptist Chapel, but could not find it listed. Looks like a visit to the local history centre is necessary.
On the left of this photo is an ornate building which Michael thinks he identifies as the Unitarian Baptist Chapel.
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its looking much more like a pub than a church. I wonder what the road is that meets Church Street here, that could be a clue. Also which side of the road? Is that an entrance into Crossfield Street on the left of the picture? Also what are the tall buildings in the foggy background? They suggest that the buildings in the picture are on the Creek side of Church Street and the two towers may be large Creek side warehouses or mills?
I agree, Shipwright's Palace, having now seen the building from the front, it does have the distinct look of a pub. The buildings are on the West side of Church Street, and the street from which the picture is taken is Pender Street.
Church Street runs roughly South-North, and so the camera view is roughly South-West. The buildings in the background are probably those in the High Street.
Here are the entries from the 1914 Post Office Directory (starting from the Kings Head on the West corner of Church Street and Creek Road, and finishing at Crossfield Street):
199 King's Head, Richard Webster
(here is Albury Street)
197 & 195 Osment, Henry James, Pawnbroker
193 Alfred Watson & Co., tobacconist
189 William Franks & Sons, bakers
187 Edwin Gilson, marine stores
185 Mrs Matilda Teuten, confectioner
(here is alley to Mary Ann's Buildings)
181 William Wright, boot & shoe maker
179 John Carr, watchmaker
UNITARIAN BAPTIST CHAPEL
165 Charles Stacey, beer retailer
159 James Smith, marine store
157 Henry Child, tobacconist
145 Robert Peters, greengrocer
143 Richard Stubbs, baker
(here is Crossfield Street)
Having looked again at the map of 1914, the Unitarian Baptist Chapel is further down Church Street, opposite Berthon Street. It was a detached building, laying back from the street, and had St Paul's behind it. The recreation ground mentioned earlier was between St Paul's and the chapel.
Looks like the building in question was a pub, then, but neither the 1914 map nor the directory shows it.
You can see this building in the post of Friday, 3 June 2011, Headed
Albury Street??? I remember as a kid walking past the newsagents 'Maynards' as I knew it and then about 100yds further going through the gate into St Paul's then into the wreck that use to be there, but cant for the life of me remember a Pub there. It is on the west side of Church Street.
Just above the doorway where the two men are standing, there appear to be the words `Shoe Repairs'. This could, then, be No. 181 Church Street, where William Wright, boot & shoe maker had his shop. Judging from the roughly painted sign, I think he just used part of the building.
Hi Michael,
Thanks for your help on this matter. I can now confirm the address numbers shown in the photo are 171-179 Deptford Church Street. I do not know if the ornate building is included. The photo was taken in 1946/7. Was the Chapel still there then?
Andy,
I've looked in the London Metropolitan Archives for non-conformist churches, hoping the registers of births, marriages and deaths would give some indication of the time-span of the Unitarian Baptist Chapel, but could not find it listed. Looks like a visit to the local history centre is necessary.
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