Sunday 15 February 2015

Where in Deptford?

Hi everyone
Jane sent me an email telling me about her ancestors in the above photo but more importantly help in trying to identify the location of where the photo was taken. Clue may be in the sign above them. Jane supplied the following info......
His name was William John Clark. On the 1911 census he was living with his parents William John Edward Clark and Finch Morgan Clark nee Pearson (known as Annie) at 53 Crossfield St. I know his first 2 children were born at this address in 1914 & 1919 I don't know when he moved out.

By 1936 he was living at 62 Creek Rd, with his wife Ellen & children, Ted, Nell, Harold & Joyce and my grandmother Ivy Morley. His parents were still at Crossfield St..........
Can anyone help please
best regards


Bob Bagley said...

Although I'm certain its not. It does remind me of this range on Stanley Street (parallel to the Deptford side of the New X Road). An interesting set all the same…

Andy said...

Hi Bob,

I see what you very much like it taking into account building delapidation etc. Thanks for the input

best regards


mail said...

Andy, Could the sign read
"F Ball & Co" If so, they were in Lower Kennington Lane when vans looked like that.
Ron King

Andy said...

Hi Ron hope your well.

It could very well be that and especially as it's connected road wise in the area. will do some research now that your pointer has got me going.

best regards


mail said...

Hi Andy, Just a bit more.....F.Ball&Co were at No.41 Lower Kennington Lane in 1915.

Andy said...

They are still in business Ron,


On the 8th October 1886, Francis Ball entered into partnership with William Henry Cowburn, ink manufacturer and established the business of 'F. Ball & Co.'

The Company occupied premises in Lower Kennington Lane in south east London where a range of products for the shoe and leather trade was developed. The partnership with William Cowburn was dissolved and in 1898 a new one formed with William Collis, an accountant.

Francis Ball died in 1904, his share of the business passing to his son, Walter James. A variety of new products were introduced during the next few years with a growing emphasis on the development of adhesives. The partnership with Mr Collis was terminated in 1915, Walter James becoming the sole owner.

The business continued to develop, with the management of the Company passing to Walter's sons Francis Charles and Walter Ernest. In 1931 Walter James died and by 1933 the Kennington Lane site had been vacated for larger facilities in Tooting. 1936 saw the Company's first venture into the flooring trade with the introduction of Stycco latex which was used to join widths of carpet together.

During the Second World War the business was transferred from its London premises to an industrial site in Staffordshire, where suitable premises had been acquired.

The next twenty years saw a change in emphasis with a steady reduction in products for the shoe trade and increased involvement in the commercial flooring trade. New building methods, the evolution of synthetic fibres and developments in carpet construction combined to produce a revolution in both the use of floorcoverings and the adhesives needed for their installation.

The introduction in the early 1960's of cement based 'floor levelling' products was followed in the middle of the decade by Stycco (later Styccobond) F3 which is, even now, the most widely used adhesive for the bonding of contract floorcoverings.

To continue to meet increasing product demand, the decision was made to expand the Leek site by the acquisition of an adjoining administration and warehouse facility. But even with the additional buildings, the Company's rapid expansion meant that a new larger manufacturing facility was needed.

In 1989, after a thorough search of the surrounding Leek area, an 8½ acre site was found 2½ miles away in Cheddleton, which remains the location of the Company today. The new site boasts a massive increase in distribution and warehousing capability.

mail said...

Hi Andy...The address listed for F. Ball @ Co was 41 Lwr Ken.Lane, an address shared with 2 other firms.
Actually, No 41&43 was a Pub,or rather an inn,called The Lamb and Hare. I have found an 1880 photo which shows an entrance to the courtyard at the rear,where there were other buildings (originally bedchambers and stables?). The photo suggests that even then, these were being used for commercial purposes.It's probable that F.Ball was in one of them.IF
your photo is connected with this firm, it could have been taken within the courtyard.The licensee of the pub at the time, was a James Ball,I have not found a family connection, the 1901 census lists only James and his family at that address.The Booth
"poverty" map clearly shows the buidings and access road.Hope this helps...Ron