Wednesday 28 October 2015

Hi all

Can anyone help Jonny Mudge please ? Here's  his email to me........

Here's my 2 cents on a house in Deptford--stranger than fiction?  Dunno.

When I was in my early teens in the late 40's there were family discussions going on to which I was only a "seen and not heard" child listening in to the adult conversations.  The gist of the conversations was that there was house that my grandfather owned that was being compulsorily purchased as part of a slum clearance and/or redevelopment.  Nelson/Hamilton had some association with the house.  My grandfather lived at 45 Adolphus St which is close by Abury St.  At the time I was only casually listening and may not have got the story correct.  In the family, it was referred to as "Nelson's house".  He was fairly entrepreneurial and bought a number of houses in the east end of London and it's possible that he owned 34 Albury St.

I noticed from Google maps that 34 Albury St is still there so maybe I got it all wrong or perhaps they were discussing the possibility of it being compulsorily purchased.  In the event, it didn't get pulled down.  He didn't live in the house but I understood that he rented it out.  

I would like to verify, for our family history, if, in fact, he owned a house on Albury St.  Unfortunately, I live in California and so to visit Deptford is not easy, but can be done, but it would be more convenient if I could get on-line access to some house ownership records to verify or disprove my memory of events  My grandfather's name was Joseph Mudge and he was born in 1869 or 1870 in Deptford, probably on Adolphus St.

I am the self appointed family historian and any help you give me would be greatly appreciated,

Best regards.

Johnny Mudge


The Grim Reaper said...

Although the current ownership of land or houses in England and Wales can be ascertained from the Land Registry for £3 online, historic ownership records are hard to come by.

If you do not already have a copy your grandfather's will might shed some light on the propert(y/ies) he owned. (A will may have been made many year's before a person's death and they do sometimes list property). If you google 'Find a will or probate (England and Wales)' it will take you to the official site site (cost is £10). The calendar book entry for your grandfather is:

MUDGE, Joseph of 52 Ravensbourne Park, Catford, London SE6 died 15 September 1950 at the Royal Masonic Hospital, Hammersmith, London. Probate London 6 January [1951] to Frederick Joseph Mudge company director Leslie Athol Mudge and Stanley Jeffrey Mudge licensed victuallers and Emily Mudge widow.
Effects £16,701 9s.

I also found the following info:

24 Dec 1900
Ilkley, Yorkshire
Joseph Mudge 30 bachelor Engineer of 45 Adolphus Street, Deptford, father Jabez Mudge tallow merchant & Emily Denby 18 spinster of 11 Bridge Lane, father Frederick Denby decd farmer. Wit: William Mudge, Alice Denby & Arthur Denby.

1901 Census
47 Hyde Vale, Greenwich

1911 Census
Earl Of Ellesmere P.H., 19 Chisenhale Road

1918 Electoral Register
72 Eglington Road, Poplar

1926 Electoral Register
189, Malmesbury Road, Poplar

1931 Electoral Register
52 Ravensbourne Park, Catford

Andy said...

Thanks Bill that's good info for Jonny to start with.